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You know that neat little wireless nunchuk that Nyko has out? Well better snap them up cause they might be gone soon due to Nintendo suing Nyko over what they say are patent and trademark infringements. I think Nintendo`s upset because they probably had one in the works and someone else beat them to it. I`ve seen many controllers out there from third parties that are closely designed like the first party devices on various systems so Nyko stealing a little of Nintendo`s thunder might have caused this action.
Thanks Kotaku.
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When I found out about this I actually emailed Nintendo. So here is my little fist shaking at the big overall wearing giant.
I was deeply disappointed to discover that Nintendo is taking legal action against Nyko Technologies inc. The reason for the disappointment is not that legal action is being taken against Nyko for for infringement of design patents or trade marks, Nintendo has a right to take legal action against infringement. What disappoints me is that Nintendo of America inc. is seeking cash compensation for the sales of the Kama Nunchuk. Doubtless there have been legal problems before with different video game consoles and different technologies but it is one thing to ask a company to stop making a product because it is faulty or not up to standards and another to ask for money as a way to compensate for making a product that improves the design it is based on. Does Nintendo intend to take legal action against all makers of Wii accessories? Is it company policy to stifle the creativity and ingenuity of other companies? Don't other companies have the right to make money from the products they work so hard to create? What entitles Nintendo the right to take possession of the profit earned by another companies innovations? I know that some or all of my questions will not be answered. The reason I am sending this message is simple. I want you to think about whether it is better to have an iron grip on the patents and copyrights of your controllers or for the consumer to have the option of buying a controller that would allow them to enjoy the games on your console with more comfort, convenience, and/or precision.
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nmurray wrote:Does Nintendo intend to take legal action against all makers of Wii accessories? Is it company policy to stifle the creativity and ingenuity of other companies? Don't other companies have the right to make money from the products they work so hard to create? As far as I'm concerned this is Nintendo's M.O. I wasn't shocked when I saw them do this, and anybody that has studied Nintendo's history will know exactly what I'm talking about. It wasn't that long ago that Nintendo had a bad reputation for suing just about everybody. They were suing non-licensed third-party companies (Tengen, etc.), they sued rental stores (over renting games), they sued retailers, they sued just about everybody they could think of. Year after year Electronic Gaming Monthly would give out their "Most Lawsuits" award to Nintendo. To be fair, Nintendo has calmed down a lot when it comes to taking legal action, but this is a company with a long history of suing people over petty concerns. See, this is the dark side of Nintendo that the fanboys don't like to mention. When some people (read: the "guests" that argued over Chuck's recent open letter to Nintendo) bring up Nintendo it's always the good things, how they saved the industry, can do no wrong and help dying kids. They never bring up the lawsuits, history of screwing over third party companies and unfair pricing practices. If these things are brought up those fanboys tend to just ignored that they ever happened. They'll point to bad things that Sony and Microsoft do, but when it comes to their favorite company everything is golden. But like a lot of major companies, Nintendo has a sketchy history ... especially when it comes to treating companies (be it retailers, renters, or third-parties) fairly. Heck, when was the last time you heard that Nintendo actually LOST a lawsuit that alleged price fixing and was forced by the courts to refund money to the customers? Never. Yet, I still hear people talk about how you couldn't make 2D games for the PS1 (myth). I'm not saying we need to make these issues front-page features, but we shouldn't completely forget that they happened. Nintendo has just as many skeletons in their closet as any major company.
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Like Cyril said, Nintendo used to do this crap all the time. Hiroshi Yamauchi may have been a brilliant leader and businessman, but he was also shrewd and incredibly competitive. Nintendo's policy toward third parties on the NES started as a series of strict regulations to enforce quality, to stop the glut of shovelware that killed Atari from appearing on the NES. But they took it way too far, and were eventually sued for it.
When he was forming the N64 Dream Team, Yamauchi basically told Squaresoft that Nintendo didn't need their help and to kiss off...FF7 on the PS1 was the result. Even before that, Yamauchi pulled the plug on the Nintendo-Sony partnership literally at the last minute. Nintendo showed up at E3 the next day touting their new partnership with Phillips (the Zelda CD-i games were the result, so it's fair to say Nintendo got their ironic comeuppance), but Sony were left high and dry, unable to show off the freshly canceled "Play Station" CD addon for the SNES. In just revenge, Sony reworked the concept into a standalone console and soundly kicked Nintendo's ass for two whole hardware generations.
When Iwata took the reins in 2002, he steered Nintendo in a "kinder, gentler" direction and started making peace with all the 3rd parties who had fled to Sony after the old Nintendo had burned them. Iwata, with the help of Reggie, reworked Nintendo's fragmented and schizophrenic image into what we have today...largely the non-threatening Wii and DS. Nintendo fanboys like to emphasize the cute and friendly Mario image, but Nintendo is capable of being just as cutthroat as Microsoft, and they'll nab good ideas from smaller companies and improve them like Sony does. I hope WiiWare makes Nintendo less of an imposing industry monolith to indie developers (their inexplicable Wii dominance is getting on my nerves) but it's important to remember that Nintendo is a business, and the bottom line always takes priority.
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Sean Colleli wrote:I hope WiiWare makes Nintendo less of an imposing industry monolith to indie developers (their inexplicable Wii dominance is getting on my nerves) but it's important to remember that Nintendo is a business, and the bottom line always takes priority. Sean is 100% right. One thing I do want to comment on is this WiiWare thing. I too want to see this thing take off, that way we'll see a lot more small projects (mostly by indie developers) get their games on the Wii for fairly cheap. However, I do feel that the small storage space in the Wii is a hindrance to the overall success. And the Nintendo EU quote about how only "geeks and otaku" want more storage space isn't helping any. It's not so much the quote (I can get over being called a geek), but does he honestly believe that there are very few people who want more storage? Apparently the mainstream isn't going to download more than one or two of those WiiWare games, because that's about as much as you're going to fit on that tiny little flash hard drive. If anything is going to hurt Nintendo in the long run, it's not being ready for our digital distribution future.
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"...flash hard drive..." Lolz
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The guys on IGN's Nintendo podcast have been complaining out this for weeks. I typically don't take them seriously but in this case they're right...the term "cleaning out the fridge" has been applied to deleting everything on your Wii to fit a couple measly WiiWare games on there. Nintendo needs to realize that this is costing them money--I, and many other gamers, would buy a lot more VC and WiiWare games if only we had the space for them.
It's an unnecessary hassle to have to delete things, re-download them or copy them back from a flash card. All Nintendo has to do is market an 8GB flash drive (with their strangle-hold DRM coded into it, of course) and the Wii's space issues will disappear. They could sell something like that for about $50, although they'd probably jack the price up per usual (the little SD cards with "Wii" printed on them were 3 times as expensive as generic ones).
A USB hard drive would be even better, but this is Nintendo we're talking about here--two steps forward, eight steps back. Opening up the functionality of the Wii's SD slot would work well too, but Nintendo is so damn paranoid about software piracy that they'll never do that. I keep hearing rumors that Nintendo will stop being arrogant on this issue and announce a storage solution at E3, but that "geeks and otaku" comment kinda douses my hope for that. I mean come on, even Miyamoto said the only thing he wished the Wii had was more storage. When the father of modern gaming in your employ complains about it, you freaking admit it's a problem and do something about it.
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If they are to release a hard drive of some sort (which they will probably do in the future), I suspect they'll try and bundle it with some of their software (probably WiiWare software) and charge $80 - $100. That seems like the kind of thing they do.
I think that eventually they are going to have to do something about this ... but I doubt it will be at this year's E3.
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