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Things are certainly not going well with the Entertainment Software Association, first Activision/Vivendi leaves and now Lucasarts bails out. You have to wonder what`s going on with the game industries to cause two of the larger publishers in the industry to move on and what they are doing to prevent future defections. Most of the rest of the big publishers are still there (EA, Capcom, Sega, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, etc) but I get the feeling that the ship is taking on water and if something isn`t done soon then we could either see the flagship group of the game industry fall apart with nothing to fill it`s place.
If that wasn`t bad enough the ESA is now trying to get cheap revenge on Activision/Vivendi by making their games ineligible for the E3 awards in July. Of course the critics association (no affiliated with the ESA) is fighting back and making sure that any game shown (even if offsite) is available for the awards. I have a feeling that this is something that`s not going away any time soon and is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
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GamingNexus wrote:Things are certainly not going well with the Entertainment Software Association, first Activision/Vivendi leaves and now Lucasarts bails out. You have to wonder what`s going on with the game industries to cause two of the larger publishers in the industry to move on and what they are doing to prevent future defections. Most of the rest of the big publishers are still there (EA, Capcom, Sega, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, etc) but I get the feeling that the ship is taking on water and if something isn`t done soon then we could either see the flagship group of the game industry fall apart with nothing to fill it`s place.<br/><br/>If that wasn`t bad enough the ESA is now trying to get cheap revenge on Activision/Vivendi by making their games ineligible for the E3 awards in July. Of course the critics association (no affiliated with the ESA) is fighting back and making sure that any game shown (even if offsite) is available for the awards. I have a feeling that this is something that`s not going away any time soon and is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. How is it "cheap revenge" to not include Activision/Vivendi? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I side with either Activision or the ESA, but why exactly would Activision's games be eligible for E3 awards if they don't, you know, actually show off any games?? It seems to me that this makes perfect sense and is not petty or "cheap" (as you say). The E3 awards are for games that are shown at E3 ... not games that could have been shown, but weren't for whatever reason. If Activision isn't going to take part in it, then why should they be eligible for any awards? Surely they knew that going in.
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I haven't fully ironed out this thought yet, but --
-- I don't think these conventions should be giving out awards on unfinished games in the first place. The games are (typically) works-in-progress, so I don't see how they're eligible for such badges of honor.
Can a movie get an Oscar before it's done filming? Can an album get an Grammy before it's done recording? What book got the Pulitzer Prize before it was published?
One case in point that has me particularly irritable is the upcoming MMO, Age of Conan. It's been stacking up dozens of various E3 awards since 2005. Does this make sense? To have awards getting plastered all over a work-in-progress for the past three years? I think we should be rewarding *accomplishment*, not *potential*.
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Randy Kalista wrote:I don't think these conventions should be giving out awards on unfinished games in the first place. The games are (typically) works-in-progress, so I don't see how they're eligible for such badges of honor. Actually, I tend to agree with you about this. Your analogy to films and books is apt, but at the same time I think they (the ESA or whoever ends up giving out these awards) would argue that they aren't saying that the game is the best game of the year, but rather the most exciting product on the show floor. This is no different from what goes on at the Consumer Electronics Show, where unfinished technology will be awarded prizes based on nothing more than their potential. Of course, the dirty little secret is that it's the video game publishers that want these awards handed out. When their game wins something they will slap a big sticker on the back saying that it was "best in show at E3" and stuff like that. Even if the game isn't as good as it could have been. Just look at all of the awards Capcom put on the back of Auto Modelista, their cel-shaded racing game that should have been a lot better than it actually was.
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