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Apparently, Nintendo may have taken a page out of the Sony Playstation 2 operating manual when it comes to reading dual-layer disks. According to a story over at PCWorld, Super Smash Bros Brawl (which released over the weekend) may not work on certain Wii`s primarily due to the console having problems reading the dual layer disk. In addition, if you hit the Support Page for Super Smash Bros Brawl, it has no fewer than four issues listed including this one. From my experience in the Home Theater industry, this screams of bad lasers. Nintendo is saying that a "small percentage" have the issue and they will fix them for free. Problem is, you have to send in your Wii to the free clinic to have it examined and repaired.
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To elaborate further, Super Smash Bros Brawl uses a dual layer disk due to the increased storage needed for the game. I'm not familiar with the Wii and the games on it, but if this is the first attempt at using a dual-layer disk due to storage constraints and they are having issues, then Nintendo is screwed. The PS2 went through these issues early on, but more so with the DVD playback. Many early DVD players also experienced these issues with dual layer disks. It all resulted from using cheap lasers instead of better quality ones. If Nintendo is accurate and that only a small amount of consoles are impacted, then we could be looking at bad batch of lasers only...
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The issue seems to be due to dust on the lenses and that people just need to send their Wii's in to get them cleaned to read the dual layer discs.
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Falcon wrote:The issue seems to be due to dust on the lenses and that people just need to send their Wii's in to get them cleaned to read the dual layer discs. I call BS on "dust on the lens" and that is an insult to anyone with half a brain. Nintendo isn't going to pay for upgraded shipping both ways of a 7 pound box and a free fix to clean dust and dirt off the lens. Kotaku is is the one smoking stuff for even suggesting this (and no where did they state hat as fact, just an educated guess on their part based off Nintendo official statement on their support page.) A $10 disc cleaning kit would do the trick. From my understanding, this is the first game on dual-layer disk that has shipped for Wii. Take it for what it is worth, lets see what happens as more titles get released on this format. It leave me wondering if Nintendo is looking for some problem consoles to be sent in to fugue out exactly what is going on. Remember, the game only released a couple days ago... Regardless of what Kotaku/Nintendo has come up with as the "reason" for this issue, dust and dirt should not be affecting game disc's after a year on the market. That is so 1998....
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dkeener wrote:Falcon wrote:The issue seems to be due to dust on the lenses and that people just need to send their Wii's in to get them cleaned to read the dual layer discs. I call BS on "dust on the lens" and that is an insult to anyone with half a brain. Nintendo isn't going to pay for upgraded shipping both ways of a 7 pound box and a free fix to clean dust and dirt off the lens. Kotaku is is the one smoking stuff for even suggesting this (and no where did they state hat as fact, just an educated guess on their part based off Nintendo official statement on their support page.) A $10 disc cleaning kit would do the trick. From my understanding, this is the first game on dual-layer disk that has shipped for Wii. Take it for what it is worth, lets see what happens as more titles get released on this format. It leave me wondering if Nintendo is looking for some problem consoles to be sent in to fugue out exactly what is going on. Remember, the game only released a couple days ago... I hate to say it, but I completely agree with Dan. The first thing I thought of when I read this story was the dual layer problem, which I've seen with other systems/DVD players (as Dan pointed out). If it was/is the lens, then a lens cleaner would do the trick, yet that doesn't seem to be working for people (based on my cursory glance at the SSBB forums). This definitely has something to do with the dual layer, I'm almost 100% sure of that. What's more, isn't the Blu-Ray lens supposed to be super sensitive? Why is it that we aren't hearing any "smoke-related" problems associated with Sony's console? If it is indeed the dual layer problem, then that really undercuts the idea that this is a next-generation console. Well, it's certainly not very next-generation in the parts department, since DVD manufacturers figured out this problem almost a decade ago. However, if it was indeed dust on the lens then Nintendo is the one to blame for that. Maybe if I actually had good software to play for the Wii my system wouldn't collect dust from just sitting there waiting for a game.
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